1) are almost never shoving qjs or kjs preflop in that spot
2) do not value bet that river with less than a straight
3) do not bluff nearly as often as they're supposed to when they use full pot sizing
Again, IMO, I think you got lucky here in that your opponent gave themselves permission to go for a large bet bluff on the end because they missed a monster draw. Recreational players constantly break character on the river when they've missed a monster draw because they think they were "supposed" to win the pot or something. In the long run you should print folding to pot-sized river bets from low stakes players.
As a POTD connoisseur, I admit it's odd that this particular post has been stuck in my brain for weeks. It's probably because I grind the micros and face my share of river-pot-clickers.
There is a second, personally comic, reason I've pondered this post. I run a live home game which includes some 'online-home-game tournies', during which I've noted that my 85 year old father is a habitual pot-clicker. His play resembles a substantial potion of my micro-stakes opponents and I took a few moments to ask him about villain's side of this hand.
Pre: he would never-ever fold or 3-bet QJs in this hand. He snap calls all day.
Flop: "I bet because he checked and he might be scared of the king and I can't win with Q-hi."
Turn: "I check because he called the flop."
River: "I bet because I need to bluff to win."
How about sizing, Dad?
"If I'm watching a hockey game I almost always click pot. If I am not watching TV and I have a larger stack than my opponent I may adjust my bet size to a bet that causes him pain."
In his defense, he is not a habitual loser. He grinds out his share of FT's by over-folding pre and limiting confrontations. He limps monsters from the early side.
My point >> I think there is a considerable portion of the micro pool that plays the hand in this regard, and does bluff the river. I've caught them. I admit I've over-called this spot and lost plenty. I think Mike has shared a common and interesting micro-river-spot that worth studying. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback. Microstakes players are often very predictable for reasons that might seem "irrational", but if you can crack the code it will help you win a lot. I always like getting a window in the thought process of casual players, which is part of the reason I launched this feature.
Glad you're playing again, Mike!
IMO, most low stakes players...
1) are almost never shoving qjs or kjs preflop in that spot
2) do not value bet that river with less than a straight
3) do not bluff nearly as often as they're supposed to when they use full pot sizing
Again, IMO, I think you got lucky here in that your opponent gave themselves permission to go for a large bet bluff on the end because they missed a monster draw. Recreational players constantly break character on the river when they've missed a monster draw because they think they were "supposed" to win the pot or something. In the long run you should print folding to pot-sized river bets from low stakes players.
Good luck and welcome back!!
As a POTD connoisseur, I admit it's odd that this particular post has been stuck in my brain for weeks. It's probably because I grind the micros and face my share of river-pot-clickers.
There is a second, personally comic, reason I've pondered this post. I run a live home game which includes some 'online-home-game tournies', during which I've noted that my 85 year old father is a habitual pot-clicker. His play resembles a substantial potion of my micro-stakes opponents and I took a few moments to ask him about villain's side of this hand.
Pre: he would never-ever fold or 3-bet QJs in this hand. He snap calls all day.
Flop: "I bet because he checked and he might be scared of the king and I can't win with Q-hi."
Turn: "I check because he called the flop."
River: "I bet because I need to bluff to win."
How about sizing, Dad?
"If I'm watching a hockey game I almost always click pot. If I am not watching TV and I have a larger stack than my opponent I may adjust my bet size to a bet that causes him pain."
In his defense, he is not a habitual loser. He grinds out his share of FT's by over-folding pre and limiting confrontations. He limps monsters from the early side.
My point >> I think there is a considerable portion of the micro pool that plays the hand in this regard, and does bluff the river. I've caught them. I admit I've over-called this spot and lost plenty. I think Mike has shared a common and interesting micro-river-spot that worth studying. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback. Microstakes players are often very predictable for reasons that might seem "irrational", but if you can crack the code it will help you win a lot. I always like getting a window in the thought process of casual players, which is part of the reason I launched this feature.